tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11023403.post5307128107471677121..comments2024-02-07T13:43:03.364+05:30Comments on Musings: Get on with it, willya?Balaji Chitra Ganesanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12946132372838633092noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11023403.post-33715742182346802832008-01-14T21:11:00.000+05:302008-01-14T21:11:00.000+05:30Interesting to note Symmonds has been involved in ...Interesting to note Symmonds has been involved in "ALL" controversies between India and Aus in the recent few series. Interesting to also note that he has neither been banned nor even fined a penny.<BR/><BR/>Hmm... <BR/><BR/>-PeAcE<BR/>--WiTh<BR/>---GuNsGuNshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16465447014985870946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11023403.post-31294484787663984822008-01-12T00:38:00.000+05:302008-01-12T00:38:00.000+05:30He did say "teri maa ki" after all. ha ha ha.He did say "teri maa ki" after all. ha ha ha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11023403.post-67313899983168520822008-01-08T23:15:00.000+05:302008-01-08T23:15:00.000+05:30:) but how can the drama continue if they come bac...:) but how can the drama continue if they come back? Indian Crybabies will do well with some ooh-lalas from the Australian crowds.Balaji Chitra Ganesanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12946132372838633092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11023403.post-7756292985670564522008-01-08T20:20:00.000+05:302008-01-08T20:20:00.000+05:30oh please, cricket hasn't been this fun in ages. S...oh please, cricket hasn't been this fun in ages. Sit back and enjoy the drama(if you cant sympathize). They should come back and never play australia. No one should play australia. Losers they are.FlyingHighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02988902572713335349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11023403.post-71714194306015994382008-01-08T04:53:00.000+05:302008-01-08T04:53:00.000+05:30this sachin angle is quite interesting actually. o...this sachin angle is quite interesting actually. on tv, i saw him giving out a nervous laughter when bhajji was talking to symonds. but apparently sachin was not near during the initial parts of the altercation.<BR/><BR/>sachin's position is perhaps catch 22. he didn't hear bhajji say "monkey". that much we can accept. but how he vouches for the rest of the conversation is not clear. considering that he had let the team down as usual in a test match, he might think he should stand up for bhajji. bcos atleast to his knowledge, bhajji is innocent.Balaji Chitra Ganesanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12946132372838633092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11023403.post-42826165214939664092008-01-08T04:22:00.000+05:302008-01-08T04:22:00.000+05:30Without trying to dog-fight, all I can say is if t...Without trying to dog-fight, all I can say is if the match referee's credibility over the judgement is questioned then not revealing the entire facts and saying that he is entitled to punish harbhajan is rather high-handed and unfair. Why is the need to hide ? Even the Indians who were present there dont know how such a "logical" conclusion was made barring no audio/video evidence. I read the article on this in cricketnext but cannot find the link now, damn !!! :-). <BR/><BR/>>> However bad they have behaved after >> that, it must be an extra-ordinary <BR/>>> concoction if Ponting made up the <BR/>>> Monkey story and reported within <BR/>>> minutes of the televised altercation. >> Not impossible, but perhaps <BR/>>> improbable.<BR/><BR/>Tell me , is this enough to frame harbhajan ? Jeez !! :-):-). There is a story going on that bhajii swore "teri maa ki" and Oz heard that as monkey. Sorry for the foul language. I cracked up for that but found it would be a good argument to back this case :-) :-). Another one was that bhajji was calming himself with "manki shanthi de". All hilarious but wonderful instances of why Procter is so wrong.<BR/><BR/>Latest news on this one :<BR/><BR/>BTW, if you follow panicker's blog there is inside info that the whole team is with bhajji on this one as they feel it was their word against the aussies and their credibility is being questioned.<BR/>The team refused to leave Sydney on their own not on BCCI's insistence and Tendulkar is personally taking this up with Pawar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11023403.post-41523018873910381952008-01-08T03:48:00.000+05:302008-01-08T03:48:00.000+05:30hmm...I don't know whether the referee has any obl...hmm...I don't know whether the referee has any obligation to make a public statement citing evidence. I'm sure Indians would have said, "Symonds provoked him". To which I presume, aussies would have said, "Bhajji hit Lee first".<BR/><BR/>When this incident happened on the second day, the relations weren't that bitter. Ponting appears to have reported the monkey calling immediately to the Umpires and his team manager as he was supposed to do. <BR/><BR/>However bad they have behaved after that, it must be an extra-ordinary concoction if Ponting made up the Monkey story and reported within minutes of the televised altercation. Not impossible, but perhaps improbable.<BR/><BR/>Also I don't think the referee can act suo-moto on a field incident unless the player is reported by the umpires.Balaji Chitra Ganesanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12946132372838633092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11023403.post-44842517278673975822008-01-08T03:45:00.000+05:302008-01-08T03:45:00.000+05:30:)...reasonable:)...reasonableVijayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10915947779564094387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11023403.post-82642493691406678202008-01-08T02:34:00.000+05:302008-01-08T02:34:00.000+05:30A very fair point. It is bhajji who is on trial. T...A very fair point. It is bhajji who is on trial. That means, what Symonds said does not affect the case ? I dont buy that. Making a racist comment just like that is one thing and making a racist comment after being provocated is another thing wouldn't you say ? - circumstances !!! Do I read you right ? This has been my point all through. Tell us exactly what happened and then hand out punishment. Seriously, I have a right to know. I want bhajji to be kicked out of the Indian team if he thinks racism is ok, atleast for this I should know. Ok, got desperate here.<BR/><BR/>Also, as an interesting side, does the referee have to wait for a player to be charged before punishing him although he has the evidence ? The precedents, with instances of Procter himself involved, seem to say no.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11023403.post-24394422409816208322008-01-08T01:37:00.000+05:302008-01-08T01:37:00.000+05:30Its true Aussies are known to have said lots of ba...Its true Aussies are known to have said lots of bad stuff. But in this case, its Bhajji who is on trial. As I have argued in the post, punish as many people as possible to make the teams behave. Kumble is free to refer aussies, which he has with Hogg.<BR/><BR/>Bad behavior especially when it has been reported, should not go unpunished.Balaji Chitra Ganesanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12946132372838633092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11023403.post-53135330905205165132008-01-08T01:24:00.000+05:302008-01-08T01:24:00.000+05:30> But except for legalize, its fair to >assume th...> But except for legalize, its fair to >assume that Bajji called Symonds Monkey. >It looked pretty ugly when he summoned >Symonds, walked a long way chatting with >him and apologized later on.<BR/><BR/>You crack me up. I didn;t know you were on the field listening :-) :-). My interpretation, Symmo provocated Harbhajan and he summoned him. Symmo throws up and Harbhajan asks him to move on which is read as an apology.<BR/><BR/>Ok, that is not the point. Point is, nobody knows what happened. All I want is for Procter to tell us exactly how he arrived at the conclusion that Harbhajan was racist and that is what is missing.<BR/>If you read Symmo's statement he says :<BR/><BR/>"I'm a firm believer in sticking up for your team-mate so I stepped in and had a bit of a crack at Harbhajan, telling him exactly what I thought of his antics. He then had a shot back, which brings us to the situation we're facing.<BR/><BR/>Could he be kind enough and tell us what he said here. Why is this left out ? Dont we have a right to know, no ? To me know, legally and that is what matters, Harbhajan cannot be branded a racist and I am freakin' demanding why ?<BR/><BR/>My personal opinion, Oz have passed racist comments all the time and it does not bother them. No, I am not convinced bhajji said it. Mcgrath called Mahanama a black **** as said in Mahanama's autobiography. Harbhajan was just too hot to handle on-field. <BR/><BR/>India should boycott this series if a fair trial to bhajji is not given. I am not saying dont screw him if he said it but prove it. Full story here please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11023403.post-53707764523169981362008-01-08T00:56:00.000+05:302008-01-08T00:56:00.000+05:30Its true there is no conclusive evidence. But ther...Its true there is no conclusive evidence. But there was circumstantial evidence. Even it was not for the racism charge, he could have been punished for bringing the game under disrepute.<BR/><BR/>But except for legalize, its fair to assume that Bajji called Symonds Monkey. It looked pretty ugly when he summoned Symonds, walked a long way chatting with him and apologized later on. <BR/><BR/>Ponting could have refrained from referring it. But as your picture link shows, we cannot expect anything better from Ponting. Thanks for the pic btw. I had posted the same in my Tamil blog a little while ago!<BR/><BR/>As for Kumble's pact, its true it lies in tatters now. But there was nothing wrong in trying that out. When the slobs running the game don't pro-actively address the 'claims' issue, captains are forced to take some initiatives themselves.Balaji Chitra Ganesanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12946132372838633092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11023403.post-72403757718730925832008-01-08T00:43:00.000+05:302008-01-08T00:43:00.000+05:30This is how trustworthy Ponting is: linkHe makes a...This is how trustworthy Ponting is: <A HREF="http://datastore.rediff.com/images/briefcase/56565C686468605965636E645E7064/yu9kei12aqn8wtcr.D.0.07ponting.jpg" REL="nofollow">link</A><BR/><BR/><BR/>He makes a pact with Anil. Whats wrong with Anil ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11023403.post-63878245382608911112008-01-07T23:57:00.000+05:302008-01-07T23:57:00.000+05:30Does Harbhajan deserve punishment ?No, he does not...Does Harbhajan deserve punishment ?<BR/><BR/>No, he does not. Is that because using the word "monkey" is alright. No, it is because there is no conclusive evidence.<BR/><BR/>I don;t care if bhajji is punished if he used the word but I do care if what Symonds said to him is conveniently left out. <BR/><BR/>Are Indians blaming Aussies because the umpires screwed them over.<BR/><BR/>No, they aren't. Kumble made the call that Aussies did not play within the spirit of the game because they did not. Ponting has proved with that catch that he is as untrustworthy as they come. Not because he appealed, that is heat of the moment, but because he did not back out despite the evidence. Why is this serious. The same Procter handed Rashid Latif a 3 match ban for calling a catch he grounded. Surprise Surprise, the same Procter is now silent. I want to write more on Oz sportsmanship this game but work calls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com